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Post by Slacker on Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:31 am

Thought I'd start a thread so people can discuss their thoughts on designs, layouts, amount of stadiums etc which should be in the main Simlympic park. Smile.
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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by dljrfn2000 on Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:41 am

Olympic Stadium

Swimming Stadium

Baseball/Softball Stadium

Gymnastic arena

Vellodrome

those should definatly be in the simlympic green area, I see so often people (myself including) that smash every single little arena into a small area, and call that a simlympic green.

Simlympic greens as well presented by Penthsilli needs a lot of park amentites foutains, green grass, sometimes even tree's pathways, etc.
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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by canuck3360 on Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:03 pm

yeah I tried to keep Laval's Simlympic Park as open as possible and then even had a couple venues really close to the Park as well(1 right across a bridge) and the other 2 blocks away

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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by LeLeOne on Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:51 pm

Fantastic new thread Slacker.
Frankly I find that the Penthesili's park is a good example of žsimlympic green', it's well-designed, ordered, not just an accumulation of venues, but structures well organized and well-distributed surrounded by much greenery. This is well suited in a city like that of 17mln inhabitants, with an availability of large spaces, but in Alameda a similar park would be disproportionate, to say nothing about the city under 1million inhabitants. For these I think is a good solution to divide the different arenas in different green, smaller and collected, with a main park slightly larger, and even to exploit some existing venues in the city....
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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by Slacker on Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:54 am

Think you've hit the nail on the head LeLe, the size of the park needs to be proportionate to the size of the city, its ridiculous any other way.
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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by GreekMan on Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:49 pm

whee do you get the velodome?

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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by canuck3360 on Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:53 pm

most people have used an arena mistos used the Milenium Dome.in Laval I was using a Basketball Arena that was being converted for the Games

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Post by Slacker on Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:41 am

Yeah, the millenium dome is a good choice. Also, the Koln Arena (I believe that's its name) would make a great velodrome too.
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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by Melbourne on Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:57 pm

I like the open Simlympic Parks with the main 3 arenas: Athletics, Swimming and Gymnastic/Indoor, these three should be present and so can a few others. Using two or three zones can also be effective if there is adequate transportation.

Simlympic Parks, in my opinion, also are influenced by the city they are in. For instance SvÝrdendar's new Simlympic Park will work with the canals and work into the overall design of the city
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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by LeLeOne on Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:29 pm

Melbourne you are right, the important thing is that the park can fit with the city around him, both in the case that it is built in an not urbanized area, both in the case that it's going to recover existing areas.
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Post by canuck3360 on Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:33 am

exactly LeLeOne Thats how Laval's Simlympic Park go developed.It wasn't the most open but had enough open spaces to make it a great gathering area.at the same time it also lent it's self to the highrises nearby it and blended it'self pretty well into the sourounding area.

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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by dljrfn2000 on Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:40 am

Ya I think Delkon Forrests fits will I can imagine sitting at the top of a building in the simlympic village over looking the Park and the bay and it fitting rather well. I really wish I could get that shot....... Sad

Its all on how the park fits into the layout of your city
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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by Slacker on Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:14 am

I'd be awesome if you could walk around your city, so many awesome shots you could get.
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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by Melbourne on Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:57 pm

would be great if there were better camera angles.
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Post by canuck3360 on Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:59 am

yeah it would be I'd love to stand in Laval's Park and look out into the Lake and bay over at downtown

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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by Mr_Sim on Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:50 am

Personally, i think the simlympic park should be spacious and not just an area with loads of stadiums all crammed in together.

I think it should have:

Main olympic stadium

1 major indoor stadium

Aquatics center

Velodrome

And maybe something else like a tennis stadium. I think, if there are any more it becomes overcrowded and quite unrealistic. If you look at real life bids, e.g. London 2012, there are only a select few stadiums in the olympic park, with all the other venues dotted around the whole city.

As well as the above list, there should be some kind of transport hub in or just outside the park.

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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by Slacker on Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:41 am

It's funny you bring the London 2012 comparison up, whilst reading the list of what you think should be in the park that same comparison came into my mind as well Smile.

In general, I prefer a spacious park with only a handful of stadiums in - but some have managed to put a lot of stadiums into one park successfully. I fear that the Simlympic Park may be seen by some as the only place stadiums can be placed.
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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by dljrfn2000 on Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:14 am

I worked hard to make sure that the Delkon Forrest Bid included things outside of the green. I think the only one who was truely able to fit all arena's within the green was Mitos at Penthsilli. I think this is more true with the Summer games than the winter the winter games you can hold all your "ice events" on the green. In my original Perthshire winter plan my simlympic stadium wasn't even on the green. (and it might still end up like that I'm having a lot of trouble with my green for the winter games thank god I have until like October to get what I want done)

But for the summer games here is what I think needs to be done on a green. The Simlympic Stadium needs to be the focal point of the green. Like with all greens the simlympic stadium needs to be the one everyone knows and sees. I think this was a major part of Penthsilli we all knew that the Beijing stadium was the focal point to that green.
Second you need to include other major stadiums like a soccer finals stadium, a baseball/softball finals stadium and you need to include a swimming area and a tennis finals stadium. That is all, everything else needs to be handled off the green and be a major part of your city's structure. People tend to forget that wooded and rural area's are important and offer a great spot for shooting, archery and equestrian.
Beaches offer a great Volleyball, rowing and sailing location.
College campuses offer a great preliminary Soccer, and hockey location.
In order to make a realistic green and host a realistic games (which is all our goal I would hope) you need to spread out the venues as best you can.
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Post by Mr_Sim on Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:40 pm

I agree with pretty much all of the above. It is much more realistic to utilise cxurrent venues, and other places like colleges, as well as rural locations for shooting, mountain biking etc.

This is much more more realistic, because lets face it, in real life, no government could afford to build so many new venues, especially considering any decent city should have a lot of these venues already.

Furthermore, if all the venues were in the same place, imagine how crowded it would be. Not to mention, the congestion when everybody wants to return to their hotel...

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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by Neil on Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:55 am

I personally think the green should be the showy place where venues that the country is going to not get any use out of should be placed, while other stadiums should be placed all over the shop - more realistic
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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by woodb3kmaster on Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:43 am

So far, this discussion has focused on how to build a good Simlympic park. But another aspect of a realistic bid involves when to build it.

Real cities never build their Olympic parks unless they actually win the hosting rights. This is very practical; why would a city spend billions of dollars on a complex if there's a significant chance it won't be used? In the Simlympics' early days, bidders mostly followed this basic idea (including my two bids), but in recent memory, I can recall seeing far too many bids where cities already had an existing, complete Simlympic park. This simply isn't realistic.

The moral of the story: Plan ahead all you like, but if you want to have a realistic bid, don't build everything unless your bid wins.
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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by Aranho on Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:32 pm

That's what Tourist City did. It re-model the Simlympics Park/Sports Hub after it won the rights to host the April 09 Games. Wink
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Re: Simlympic Park Discussion

Post by dljrfn2000 on Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:07 am

as cool as that would be, we can't really do that. In the real games they use artist depictions and such to show what the games will look like, but we can't really do that with Sim City. As great as it would be to have a country give a plot of land as the 'where the games will be,' the ISC can't trust that we're going to put the games together (in about 2 weeks time) they need to see what it will look like in advance
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