How medals are decided
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How medals are decided
Part 1 - Points Allocation System:
The purpose: To allow nations to decide which sports they should do best in.
Each competing nation receives 800 points which they can use to assign to all the different Simlympic sports. With the new system, nations can now chose not to compete in certain sports simply by assigning that sport with 0 points.
Bonus points:
+40 for every Simlympics attended (Competing in the Simlympics raises the profile of sport in the country, thus meaning the country is more likely to win medals)
+160 for the host nation (The host nation always receives a boost thanks to home crowds and being familiar with the venues, climate etc)
+80 for past hosts (Hosting a Simlympics raises the profile of sport in the country significantly, thus meaning the country is more likely to win medals)
+30 for past bids (Bidding for the Simlympics raises the profile of sport in the country significantly, thus meaning the country is more likely to win medals)
For more information about PAS, and to see how many points you have click here
Part 2 - Increases based on past medals:
The purpose: To ensure past medalists have a greater chance of winning a medal next time around.
This uses percentages to increase a nations chance of medaling for a second (or third, or fourth, etc etc) time round. It uses the points system as a base and then builds upon it.
If a nation won gold in the sport once before, it has a % chance of getting a medal next time round.
If a nation won silver in the sport once before, it has a % chance of getting a medal next time round.
If a nation won bronze in the sport once before, it has a % chance of getting a medal next time round.
This system will come into implementation for the ninth Simlympics (One after December) to ensure that we have a proper base to start off with. As the last results were random, they didn't provide a complete or fair overview of each nations sporting abilities so we will use Decembers results as the beginning.
N.B, the number will be rounded to ensure there are no decimals.
Part 3 - How the medalists will be calculated:
Behind the scenes, we then use an advanced simulation model to calculate the medalists for each sport. It's all very complex stuff 8)
The purpose: To allow nations to decide which sports they should do best in.
Each competing nation receives 800 points which they can use to assign to all the different Simlympic sports. With the new system, nations can now chose not to compete in certain sports simply by assigning that sport with 0 points.
Bonus points:
+40 for every Simlympics attended (Competing in the Simlympics raises the profile of sport in the country, thus meaning the country is more likely to win medals)
+160 for the host nation (The host nation always receives a boost thanks to home crowds and being familiar with the venues, climate etc)
+80 for past hosts (Hosting a Simlympics raises the profile of sport in the country significantly, thus meaning the country is more likely to win medals)
+30 for past bids (Bidding for the Simlympics raises the profile of sport in the country significantly, thus meaning the country is more likely to win medals)
For more information about PAS, and to see how many points you have click here
Part 2 - Increases based on past medals:
The purpose: To ensure past medalists have a greater chance of winning a medal next time around.
This uses percentages to increase a nations chance of medaling for a second (or third, or fourth, etc etc) time round. It uses the points system as a base and then builds upon it.
If a nation won gold in the sport once before, it has a % chance of getting a medal next time round.
If a nation won silver in the sport once before, it has a % chance of getting a medal next time round.
If a nation won bronze in the sport once before, it has a % chance of getting a medal next time round.
This system will come into implementation for the ninth Simlympics (One after December) to ensure that we have a proper base to start off with. As the last results were random, they didn't provide a complete or fair overview of each nations sporting abilities so we will use Decembers results as the beginning.
N.B, the number will be rounded to ensure there are no decimals.
Part 3 - How the medalists will be calculated:
Behind the scenes, we then use an advanced simulation model to calculate the medalists for each sport. It's all very complex stuff 8)
Last edited by Slacker on Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:39 am; edited 1 time in total
Slacker- ISC Executive
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Re: How medals are decided
I think it's neat that theoretically a nation could "sweep" an event. This has precedence in the Olympics.
knarfmo- ISC Member
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Re: How medals are decided
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what appears with Decembers results; lots of possibilities .
Slacker- ISC Executive
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Re: How medals are decided
Well done Slacker (and the team), I think this is a very good system. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out.
paroch- Number of posts : 31
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Re: How medals are decided
yes looks like it should be a good way of running it. i will still come last though!lol!
Melbourne- ISC Member
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Thank you . We have some more improvements planned coming further down the line too, there are some really great ideas floating around at the moment .
Slacker- ISC Executive
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Re: How medals are decided
Is this still going to be used for the April Simlympics? I sure hope it is
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Yep as far I know we are. Along with PAS too. Would of been used with the Winter Simlympics if it wasnt for RL hitting me so hard.
Re: How medals are decided
Now this is more fair. Thanks for your hardwork.
Is the percentage missing or did you purposely left it out?
What I wanted to know it whether all decimal places will be rounded up or rounded to the nearest ones.
For example: Let's say we have 20.4 and 20.6.
Is it either this (rounded up): 21 and 21
Or is it this (rounded to nearest ones): 20 and 21
If a nation won gold in the sport once before, it has a % chance of getting a medal next time round.
If a nation won silver in the sport once before, it has a % chance of getting a medal next time round.
If a nation won bronze in the sport once before, it has a % chance of getting a medal next time round.
Is the percentage missing or did you purposely left it out?
the number will be rounded to ensure there are no decimals.
What I wanted to know it whether all decimal places will be rounded up or rounded to the nearest ones.
For example: Let's say we have 20.4 and 20.6.
Is it either this (rounded up): 21 and 21
Or is it this (rounded to nearest ones): 20 and 21
Re: How medals are decided
Yup, the plan is to use the system in its entirety for April and all future games.
We still haven't decided on the final percentage, it's quite a hard number to come up with... we need to ensure it gives past winners an edge, but not too much of an edge. I need to do some testing .
It's rounded to the nearest ones. If it's 0.5 or above, it's rounded up. If it's 0.4 or below, it's rounded down.
Also note, I posted this back in November. We just couldn't implement part two, because the only winner data we had was based on another method of simulation, we wanted to start from fresh .
We still haven't decided on the final percentage, it's quite a hard number to come up with... we need to ensure it gives past winners an edge, but not too much of an edge. I need to do some testing .
It's rounded to the nearest ones. If it's 0.5 or above, it's rounded up. If it's 0.4 or below, it's rounded down.
Also note, I posted this back in November. We just couldn't implement part two, because the only winner data we had was based on another method of simulation, we wanted to start from fresh .
Slacker- ISC Executive
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Re: How medals are decided
that a great idea i like it... however, were we supposed to do this when we competed?
spore415- Number of posts : 15
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You can do it whenever, here's where you can fill out PAS. We probably need to do a better job of making PAS more obvious when you sign up I think.
Slacker- ISC Executive
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Re: How medals are decided
Wow, this is very complicated stuff! Thanks for having the Simlympics!
adam- Number of posts : 48
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Re: How medals are decided
Who does this when the games are on? Is it the host?
danspaceman- Number of posts : 167
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The ISC always does the results.
Matt- Former Simlympic Host
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Awesome.
danspaceman- Number of posts : 167
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